2026-03-16T00:10:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Finally
2026-03-16T00:11:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> This is one of the biggest graphical things I wanted in Skyrim.
2026-03-16T00:14:09  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Skyrim definitely needs this.
2026-03-16T00:48:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <seth1106> I wish there was a team as dedicated as the devs here in making Skyrim an actual good game :sadcat:
2026-03-16T00:48:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <seth1106> been watching my girl play a wabbajack list and it crashes every 30 so minutes
2026-03-16T00:54:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> Is this accurate?
2026-03-16T00:54:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1482904804358361268/image.png?ex=69b8a638&is=69b754b8&hm=983f5e558830607fd088c67b9bbf76ce7b9d65a442b9ca192af5945e6e7531e2&
2026-03-16T00:54:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> Linux will likely never support big multiplayer games for this reason?
2026-03-16T00:55:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <hangon3415> it's probably a bad list lol
2026-03-16T00:55:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <S3c:tor> meh, yeah.
2026-03-16T00:55:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <S3c:tor> Not that anti cheat is the real problem anyway
2026-03-16T00:55:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> As they are now, yeah. Eventually they'll bite the bullet though.
2026-03-16T00:55:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> The games industry, I mean, not Linux.
2026-03-16T00:56:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> Or somebody actually does make a "Linux for Anti-Cheat", which I could see happening if Windows suddenly exploded and everybody needed to move on over.
2026-03-16T00:56:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <S3c:tor> More generally it's a pretty small slice of the pie so they just don't care.
2026-03-16T00:57:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> currently yeah
2026-03-16T00:59:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> is facebook smoking shit
2026-03-16T01:00:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> lmao apparently they bought moltbook
2026-03-16T01:00:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> the obviously scripted ai only reddit
2026-03-16T01:02:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <S3c:tor> Have you seen what Zuccy has been doing for the last five years
2026-03-16T01:02:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <S3c:tor> He got that Buncy
2026-03-16T01:15:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> they're on that openclaw koolaid
2026-03-16T01:16:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> it was less scripted and more just there were no protections, so people signed up directly
2026-03-16T01:16:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> i meant more how some of the ai acted
2026-03-16T01:16:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> it was rather convenient for how they had no protections
2026-03-16T01:17:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> they obviously were bots trained to post specific stuff
2026-03-16T04:04:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> skyrim modders really creating a 2k mod list installer then have npcs look like this
2026-03-16T04:04:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1482952597487882392/image.png?ex=69b8d2bb&is=69b7813b&hm=7eb2eef4e4cff63dc13a9dd7deb61968743e14ef4d4a48590611fa484aeded5b&
2026-03-16T04:04:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> I've always wanted to run into Ciri dresssed to do an SNL bit making fun of Texan proms
2026-03-16T04:07:43  <OpenMW-bridge> <chancellor3572> Idk why you @'d me but yeah
2026-03-16T04:07:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Something something glass houses
2026-03-16T04:07:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Something something stones
2026-03-16T04:08:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> oh lmao me neither
2026-03-16T04:08:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> I must've had clicked reply the last time I was in this channel
2026-03-16T04:08:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> oops
2026-03-16T04:08:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Not referring to anyone in particular, or present company - but I've seen some cursed morrowind npcs, head replacers, hair replacers etc
2026-03-16T04:08:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> and multiple very much in that style
2026-03-16T04:09:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> lmao I'm sure I've posted screenshots before where I was using Rafael's shaders with the darkmaps setup for subsurface scattering. It makes NPCs glow violently red indoors. For a while I was also too lazy to fix my overly smooth specular maps and overly strong normal maps so everyone looked like they were made of grease covered sandpaper
2026-03-16T04:10:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Not even talking about that, just browse "bodies, face, hair" section on nexus for five minutes and that original screenshot will seem very much tame :D
2026-03-16T04:11:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Not defending skyrim modding, at all. Buuuuut
2026-03-16T04:18:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> huh I have literally only ever pulled body/face mods from the MOMW lists and  never seen this before this is awesome
2026-03-16T04:18:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1482956189456273448/image.png?ex=69b8d613&is=69b78493&hm=d31687b6f230fc6784d1d7959d2c5933044128cbb5114238d97da41459e9feab&
2026-03-16T04:19:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> wait its all one person who's just been cooking insanely hard on this
2026-03-16T04:19:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> yuuuup
2026-03-16T04:19:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> that's what I was talking about
2026-03-16T04:19:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> and this is quality compared to soem others
2026-03-16T04:20:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> like, objectively quality, if it doesn't fit morrowind at all
2026-03-16T04:20:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> holy shit this is nuts lmao
2026-03-16T04:20:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1482956642495762462/image.png?ex=69b8d67f&is=69b784ff&hm=c867926b63dad767344098ad01c1c467b3735323a0850e587096d9647b68fe79&
2026-03-16T04:20:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> I wonder how you could get this to look with proper PBR
2026-03-16T04:21:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> lmao, yeah. That second one has potential. Him head too big tho
2026-03-16T04:22:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> I wonder if its from metahuman or something then had lighting baked in
2026-03-16T04:24:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> May very well be.
2026-03-16T04:24:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Imo though - that high fidelity facial/body models in morrowind just look unexplainably weird
2026-03-16T04:25:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> needs good lighting/shaders all around and on the actual model to match I guess
2026-03-16T04:27:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I judge a person by how their modded Skyrim NPCs look.
2026-03-16T04:27:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> You should all as well.
2026-03-16T04:27:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> And good animations I prefer the vanilla look because you're just never getting rid of all the jank no matter how hard you try
2026-03-16T04:28:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> What if my only Skyrim is Enderal? ||the only good reason to even install it tbh||
2026-03-16T04:28:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Then that's fine.
2026-03-16T04:30:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Animations do a lot of heavy lifting to make it all feel better yeah
2026-03-16T08:03:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> If they clash with the rest of the game's graphics then that's an issue. Interestingly, head replacers which drastically changed the NPC appearance were very popular 20+ years ago. OG heads were described as ugly even back then. Nowadays many people seem to stick to Vanilla-like heads but with enhanced textures. Maybe that's just enough considering MW's aesthetics. I also remember Better Bodies being popular but I guess
2026-03-16T08:03:24  <OpenMW-bridge> that it's hard to maintain compatibility. Also, 99% of characters are wearing at least a few pieces of equipment so it doesn't matter that much.
2026-03-16T08:08:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> NPC voices are often pretty bad in these mods as well. In MW you don't need voiced dialogue for new NPCs. In Skyrim, well, it's either silence or AI-gen or amateurish voice acting of varying quality.
2026-03-16T08:17:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> New Vegas has a crazy mod with like dozens and dozens of voice actors
2026-03-16T08:17:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> The Long 18
2026-03-16T08:18:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> "200+ voiced characters"
2026-03-16T08:22:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <a.square> woah
2026-03-16T08:22:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <a.square> first i've heard of it
2026-03-16T08:32:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/94306
2026-03-16T08:32:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> its fantastic
2026-03-16T08:49:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Video showcase looks nice
2026-03-16T08:49:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> And VA seems decent, indeed.
2026-03-16T08:50:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Looks pretty cool.
2026-03-16T08:52:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> I did basically everything in it
2026-03-16T08:53:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> its a must have
2026-03-16T08:59:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Tbh it's been so long since I played NV that even Vanilla+DLCs would be choke full of content :36vehks:
2026-03-16T09:03:46  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> play NV and watch the show
2026-03-16T09:04:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> I was mid-replaying new vegas when the show was announced :sf_doge_kek:
2026-03-16T09:06:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Btw do you expect F3 Remastered this year? I guess that FNV will happen later.
2026-03-16T09:13:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> are people actually excited for that after oblivion remastered? lmao
2026-03-16T09:14:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> relive the exact same stages of unreal engine 5 grief
2026-03-16T09:16:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> oblivion remaster is awful
2026-03-16T09:16:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> it looks great and runs like absolute turds
2026-03-16T09:17:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i would argue that it in fact does not look great
2026-03-16T09:17:25  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> 7800X3D 4080Super on NVMe with 32GB DDR5 6000mhz, didn't matter, tons of stutter, tons of frame drops, tons of graphical issues, just absolute crap
2026-03-16T09:17:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> upscaling and temporal artifacts like mad
2026-03-16T09:18:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> this crazy fantasy world of madness where you have better hardware, but the image quality looks worse
2026-03-16T09:18:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> not to mention the people who gobble up the stupid cfg/ini
2026-03-16T09:18:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> copy pasted UE5 crap
2026-03-16T09:18:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> 90% of it does nothing
2026-03-16T09:18:29  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> always the top mods for those unreal games
2026-03-16T09:18:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> always does absolutely nothing at best
2026-03-16T09:18:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Something has been on my mind, isn't it depressing that there's no modding support? Isn't that a big regression? Why did nobody seem to care about that? Weird.
2026-03-16T09:18:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> and makes things look bad at worse
2026-03-16T09:18:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> or straight up breaks your game
2026-03-16T09:18:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> placebo effect to the max on people
2026-03-16T09:19:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> how do you mod a game thats heavily modded through some unreal layer
2026-03-16T09:19:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> its like two cans of worms in one
2026-03-16T09:19:29  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> hard pass
2026-03-16T09:19:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> pray to Todd it never gets updated ever
2026-03-16T09:19:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> also that
2026-03-16T09:19:43  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> I gave up on playing FO4
2026-03-16T09:19:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> I tried recently and they updated it like 3 days into my playthru
2026-03-16T09:20:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <slowchu> just not even gonna bother. 90% of the mod collections are broken even with the downgrade
2026-03-16T09:20:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I feel like they maybe could have somehow gotten modding support happening if there was more time and money put into the development of Oblivion Remastered.
2026-03-16T09:21:24  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't think i will ever get over how much unreal engine 5 sucks
2026-03-16T09:21:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483032502661812234/GkXXxa-WoAAUaNj.jpg?ex=69b91d26&is=69b7cba6&hm=f021460bb1d60427a49b00392d5690b0ec488b7857898b7d326314b5183bef84&
2026-03-16T09:21:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> ue5 is innocent imo of garbage devs
2026-03-16T09:23:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> lmao dlss and fsr on
2026-03-16T09:23:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yes
2026-03-16T09:25:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> everytime i go back to replay deus ex mankind divided i'm reminded of what we lost
2026-03-16T09:25:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> What did we lose
2026-03-16T09:25:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> raster
2026-03-16T09:26:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> that game still looks incredibly good
2026-03-16T09:26:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> https://www.youtube.com/@DallasDrap/videos
2026-03-16T09:26:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> I recommend this guy's channel
2026-03-16T09:26:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> no fuckin blur or nasty artifacts making you feel like you're getting schizophrenic seeing shapes in your periphery
2026-03-16T09:26:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he debunks and explains a lot abotu ue5
2026-03-16T09:27:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I recommend Threat Interactive (just kidding)
2026-03-16T09:27:13  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> holy fuck no
2026-03-16T09:27:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> 900k trust new engine
2026-03-16T09:27:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> trust
2026-03-16T09:27:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I think people are realising finally that Threat Interactive is insane, especially after he started attacking Gamers Nexus for no reason
2026-03-16T09:27:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't pretend to know what would fix it. i just call out bad when i see it
2026-03-16T09:27:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Oh nice
2026-03-16T09:27:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483034063878098985/image.png?ex=69b91e9a&is=69b7cd1a&hm=7081717a8a86e51a0c013d2c18828a57317725963e8d25980dab7487a7a15014&
2026-03-16T09:27:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he ain't insane imo, he is a class A grifter
2026-03-16T09:28:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Have you seen his twitter and his reddit account?
2026-03-16T09:28:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> I know he blocks people and DMCA them
2026-03-16T09:28:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> If he's not insane then he is at least incredibly toxic
2026-03-16T09:28:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> maybe grifter and insane
2026-03-16T09:28:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> not the first tbh
2026-03-16T09:28:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Grifter yes for sure
2026-03-16T09:28:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> He's been called the new Pirate Software
2026-03-16T09:28:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <sophie42069101> I think some of the points he makes are reasonable but I dont really think he understands anything actually and that probably has not coded a day in his life
2026-03-16T09:28:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> pirate wasn't insane though
2026-03-16T09:29:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Mm
2026-03-16T09:29:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> pirate could at least code something 🤣
2026-03-16T09:29:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't know what points Threat Interactive has made that are reasonable
2026-03-16T09:30:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he started his channel pointing out stuff regarding bad optimization while using word salad to explain them
2026-03-16T09:30:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> he at least has his heart in the right place when you spend 50% more on hardware and the games look 50% worse
2026-03-16T09:30:29  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> then he progressively went nuts
2026-03-16T09:30:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> How does attacking Gamers Nexus fit into that
2026-03-16T09:31:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> digital foundry
2026-03-16T09:31:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't know i wasn't referring to that at all
2026-03-16T09:31:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> gamers nexus
2026-03-16T09:31:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> other devs
2026-03-16T09:31:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> list goes on
2026-03-16T09:31:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> People on reddit
2026-03-16T09:31:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> steve burke is a homie
2026-03-16T09:31:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> People on twitter
2026-03-16T09:31:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Anyone who dares criticise him
2026-03-16T09:32:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> you can both appreciate the guy for calling out something that is terribly broken and also think he's a dick for other reasons
2026-03-16T09:32:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he is beyond dick
2026-03-16T09:32:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> His videos are awful
2026-03-16T09:32:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> I am fine wih dick
2026-03-16T09:32:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> There's nothing to appreciate
2026-03-16T09:32:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he is a dmca abuser and a liar
2026-03-16T09:33:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <akirazxe> The Youtube Drama Cinematic Universe never seems to run out of new characters to add.
2026-03-16T09:33:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't disagree with any of that
2026-03-16T09:33:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> the gift that keeps on giving
2026-03-16T09:33:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> You don't need some grifter telling you that "smear in video games is bad"
2026-03-16T09:33:59  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> okay but i like it
2026-03-16T09:34:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> He's just telling you what you want to hear
2026-03-16T09:34:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> need more people calling it out until people get the message
2026-03-16T09:34:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't even watch or like his content lmao i just like that he punches up at ue5
2026-03-16T09:35:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> If anything it's counterproductive because he is such a toxic individual and his videos are so badly made that he's better off ignored, I can't imagine anyone at Epic Games taking him seriously
2026-03-16T09:35:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> I mean
2026-03-16T09:35:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> there are people who call this out that aren't insane
2026-03-16T09:35:25  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> even better
2026-03-16T09:35:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> threat interactive makes us look bad because he is dead weight
2026-03-16T09:36:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2iDqNdBnzE
2026-03-16T09:36:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> this video is good
2026-03-16T09:37:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483036427275993200/Sickos_Guy.png?ex=69b920cd&is=69b7cf4d&hm=13150c57ddcdd2701b3dafad582ec4fb17af5d99a505fb2546508bff59d3bd2d&
2026-03-16T09:37:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> pringles lookin ass moustache
2026-03-16T09:37:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <sophie42069101> I hope GN makes a drama video on this guy
2026-03-16T09:37:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <sophie42069101> would be fun to watch
2026-03-16T09:37:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> He did
2026-03-16T09:37:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <sophie42069101> I wanna watch it lol
2026-03-16T09:38:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> morrowind character
2026-03-16T09:38:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://youtu.be/r2SG4T0wymk?si=Y8tOTpGsR0-Lbdvt&t=1360 here you go
2026-03-16T09:39:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> this guy's first point is dumb as fuck
2026-03-16T09:40:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> looks great if you need glasses and aren't wearing them
2026-03-16T09:40:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he explains everything just keep watching
2026-03-16T09:40:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Everyone's making fun of the graph
2026-03-16T09:41:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Chat, is this graph true?
2026-03-16T09:41:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483037524031963229/image.png?ex=69b921d3&is=69b7d053&hm=97ef00464ff1ac69eb6c7cc5d85f19a2483b8e86ed38262399b3fca4ae80c998&
2026-03-16T09:42:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> well
2026-03-16T09:42:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> needs to be more asymptotey
2026-03-16T09:42:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> you can make up your mind looking at his videos
2026-03-16T09:43:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I was hating Threat Interactive before it was cool
2026-03-16T09:43:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> I used to like him
2026-03-16T09:43:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> but I can't sweep insanity
2026-03-16T09:45:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> this guy is an idiot
2026-03-16T09:45:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> upscaling is mandatory in games even without raytracing
2026-03-16T09:45:29  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> that's why it's an issue
2026-03-16T09:45:51  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he never said upscaling is only for ray tracing
2026-03-16T09:45:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> can't run jack shit natively anymore
2026-03-16T09:46:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> he said that it's there to solve a specific problem
2026-03-16T09:46:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it's not. it's a massive band-aid on poor performance
2026-03-16T09:46:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> yes, and it started out during 20x series nvidia RTX for this reason and other graphical effects are also far more complex than before
2026-03-16T09:47:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Seems like a strange thing to be upset about anyway. I mean, this is mostly just AAA games we're talking about. It's not like you have to play AAA games. I don't really play many AAA games anymore. I play a lot more indie games where there's no problem.
2026-03-16T09:47:24  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> he's also using screenshots for examples. which is misrepresentative of the experience
2026-03-16T09:47:25  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> and these complex graphics create noise that makes aliasing worse and not viable to fight it with just normal MSAA
2026-03-16T09:47:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it looks perfect when the lighting system isn't taking full seconds to catch up when you move the camera around
2026-03-16T09:48:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> DLAA runs on native for example but it uses AI to remove aliasing while keep picture sharp
2026-03-16T09:48:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> he is right that graphics are far more complex and costly to run than before due to the advancments
2026-03-16T09:49:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> the advancements come with handicaps
2026-03-16T09:49:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> the hardware just is not there yet to go all in on this crap
2026-03-16T09:49:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> no one is forcing companies to make use of everything the engine allows to unreasonable degree
2026-03-16T09:50:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> or not taking time to make sure the game is optimized for specific use cases
2026-03-16T09:50:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I still need to play new Songs of Conquest content
2026-03-16T09:50:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> But also Blood Death Wish 2 is coming out
2026-03-16T09:51:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I'll play the new Ultrakill update eventually..
2026-03-16T09:51:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> what genre are these games
2026-03-16T09:51:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> uhhh
2026-03-16T09:51:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Songs of Conquest = Turn Based Strategy Death Wish 2 and Ultrakill = Shooters
2026-03-16T09:52:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> lmao tonemapping will save ue5
2026-03-16T09:52:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> this guy is braindead
2026-03-16T09:52:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> has no understanding at all what makes the visuals look poor
2026-03-16T09:52:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciCRiQmwTrs
2026-03-16T09:52:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> tonemaps
2026-03-16T09:52:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g54flUoWRU
2026-03-16T09:53:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> tonemapping isn't going to solve the problem with the lighting needing full seconds to catch up when you pan the camera around
2026-03-16T09:54:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> or the problem with ghosting either
2026-03-16T09:54:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> or reflections being far worse than they've been in years
2026-03-16T09:55:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i kind of want to open up clair obscur or stalker 2 and take footage of some of the worst stuff i've seen in those games
2026-03-16T09:55:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Maybe I need to use some tonemapping my unreal projects
2026-03-16T09:56:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Clair Obscur has a bunch of bad decisions when it comes to post processing, that's developer fault. The game can actually look alright when you turn it off.
2026-03-16T09:56:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> all i know is death stranding 2 be coming out in a couple days on pc and it's on decima and looks incredibly good
2026-03-16T09:57:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Counterpoint
2026-03-16T09:57:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Am I as a developer able to open up Decima and make a project with it?
2026-03-16T09:57:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> not without several million dollars
2026-03-16T09:57:43  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah
2026-03-16T09:57:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it's only horizon and death stranding that use it, right?
2026-03-16T09:57:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yes
2026-03-16T09:58:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> the engine kcd uses is pretty good. isn't that more available?
2026-03-16T09:58:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> cryengine iirc
2026-03-16T09:58:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <mihawk6832> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzz8_O3PIUg
2026-03-16T09:58:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Not too sure what the deal is with Cryengine nowadays
2026-03-16T09:59:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i don't see the value is blaming developers for doing it wrong when no games have demonstrated you can do it right
2026-03-16T09:59:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> show me a game i can play using the engine that can actually look an run good
2026-03-16T10:00:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> idtech 7 ran pretty well on my hardware and looked amazing
2026-03-16T10:00:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Apparently Arc Raiders
2026-03-16T10:00:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i'm just saying there are contemporary engines that seem to be doing alright, and ue5 games have all the same problems in common
2026-03-16T10:00:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> arc raiders also has the same lighting issues
2026-03-16T10:00:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it does run pretty good though i will give you that
2026-03-16T10:01:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> not without DLSS though lol
2026-03-16T10:03:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I wouldn't know
2026-03-16T10:03:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Don't play multiplayer shooters
2026-03-16T10:04:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i have a hard time getting into multiplayer shooters where you have to spend a chunk of time managing bullshit in your inventory
2026-03-16T10:05:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> having to wait to loot is such a dumb assed mechanic
2026-03-16T10:05:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> like your character is blind and you have to feel around in the drawer to find out what everything is
2026-03-16T10:07:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I also don't have it in me to play Death Stranding 2 I don't think
2026-03-16T10:08:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> can't wait to walk
2026-03-16T10:08:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Just seems like it will take a lot of time to play it
2026-03-16T10:08:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah it seems massive lol
2026-03-16T10:08:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I did like the first one but it did sorta sound like 2 is going to annoy me
2026-03-16T10:09:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> There are just too many freaking games
2026-03-16T10:09:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I still have Morrowind mods I am supposed to beat
2026-03-16T10:11:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's funny that I have a 5090 and I haven't played any games on it
2026-03-16T10:13:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> this had me hootin' and hollerin'
2026-03-16T10:13:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483045628388049029/image.png?ex=69b9295f&is=69b7d7df&hm=9504b0695742f78d94bf6665cc7a74f1673da2de14f4eed87cc625ffd34a0d64&
2026-03-16T10:13:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Well okay I have played a little but not much.
2026-03-16T10:14:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Maybe I'll play Death Stranding 2 if it becomes free on Epic Games.
2026-03-16T10:15:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah give it a year or two it'll come up eventually
2026-03-16T10:15:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i am just a fanboy that can't help himself
2026-03-16T10:15:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> kojima game comes out i must play
2026-03-16T10:15:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Fair enough
2026-03-16T10:15:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's probably a good game
2026-03-16T10:16:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It has cute Australian critters which I can respect at least.
2026-03-16T10:17:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> save the kangaroos!!
2026-03-16T10:18:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I am actually excited for: Forza Horizon 6
2026-03-16T10:18:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i never played those games but i'd probably like it
2026-03-16T10:19:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i've always gone to trackmania for my fantasy fast cars itch
2026-03-16T10:19:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> In terms of a game that looks and performs well, Forza Horizon 5 is like magic
2026-03-16T10:19:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I'd be so keen to just drive around the map in 6
2026-03-16T10:19:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Game looks great and runs silky smooth
2026-03-16T10:21:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> In general driving around just feels so satisfying in 144hz
2026-03-16T10:21:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> the fabled 144hz
2026-03-16T10:22:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I would think UE5 is actually a terrible choice for racing games, especially with TSR
2026-03-16T10:22:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't even know if there are any UE5 racing games
2026-03-16T10:23:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I guess nobody really talks about the Forza engine because all it does is... Forza
2026-03-16T10:27:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't think I'll ever get tired of the concept of just driving around in a big beautiful open world.
2026-03-16T10:29:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I'm not even any good at racing games btw./
2026-03-16T10:30:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i like the less serious ones
2026-03-16T10:30:09  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it's cool the sim ones exist, but it ain't for me
2026-03-16T10:30:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah neither, Horizon 5 is somewhere inbetween
2026-03-16T10:30:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> But it can get.. pretty cringe
2026-03-16T10:30:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Some of the dialogue, hm
2026-03-16T10:31:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SJkryCen2mU?feature=share
2026-03-16T10:31:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Midnight Club 2 still has the best dialogue of any racing game
2026-03-16T10:32:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> This is amazing too
2026-03-16T10:32:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah Forza Horizon just more has event organisers that give you some narration before a race, that sort of thing. And it's a very E for everyone kind of vibe.
2026-03-16T10:32:57  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> need for speed is a master class in exposition
2026-03-16T10:33:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> all you need to know in a single sentence. let's race
2026-03-16T10:33:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlUv8ZyuzeU couldn't really find a good quality version of these other than this video which uses upscaling... well whatever
2026-03-16T10:33:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Check out these insane cutscenes
2026-03-16T10:34:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I can appreciate the effort in animating all of these weirdo racers
2026-03-16T10:35:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> loses points for being rendered, but it's pretty good
2026-03-16T10:35:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Why does it lose points
2026-03-16T10:35:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> reminds me of tempest rising which is a command and conquer type RTS that misses the assignment entirely when it comes to the cutscenes :sadcat:
2026-03-16T10:35:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's like the only racer I can think of that does this
2026-03-16T10:36:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> more FMVs in video games is what i'm saying lol
2026-03-16T10:36:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> These Tempest Rising ones look bad
2026-03-16T10:36:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah they're all terrible
2026-03-16T10:36:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Now that is an odd choice
2026-03-16T10:36:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> contrast with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhSKjdOpxqw
2026-03-16T10:37:26  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yes
2026-03-16T10:38:13  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> even though they were pushing it with the cheese factor in red alert 3 they at least understood the assignment
2026-03-16T10:39:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Now I'm wishing Forza Horizon's dialogue had more character
2026-03-16T10:39:30  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's very uhhh
2026-03-16T10:39:46  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Corporate quirky? I guess
2026-03-16T10:40:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I'd probably rather there's no dialogue
2026-03-16T10:40:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah it's a do it right or not at all thing
2026-03-16T10:40:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> you don't need a story for a racing game imo
2026-03-16T10:41:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=672-Go0_MY0
2026-03-16T10:41:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> when it's done poorly it just feels like they had a box to check off
2026-03-16T10:41:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't even know who's supposed to be talking to you in Horizon
2026-03-16T10:41:59  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Maybe it's the voices in your head
2026-03-16T10:42:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i like how this guy gets full points for beelining it through the desert
2026-03-16T10:43:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Voices in your head is my new headcanon
2026-03-16T10:43:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> That does make it better really
2026-03-16T10:43:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> Hellblade: Horizon 6
2026-03-16T10:43:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yes!!
2026-03-16T10:44:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> "you suck at driving" "you're gonna crash" "you will not make this putt, you jackass!!"
2026-03-16T10:44:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Nah in Horizon it's all just positive reinforcement
2026-03-16T10:44:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Which in some ways can be worse
2026-03-16T10:44:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Death Stranding 1 weirdly has that problem
2026-03-16T10:45:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It also makes me weirdly uncomfortable in Skyrim mods when NPCs thank you way too much
2026-03-16T10:52:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <abdu7944> Almost like that's how real life is.
2026-03-16T10:53:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I was just thinking how I don't like compliments in real life either.
2026-03-16T10:55:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah death stranding has a weird boilerplate problem i don't really see anyone talk about
2026-03-16T10:56:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> mashing through the same set of cutscenes every time you turn in an amazon package
2026-03-16T10:56:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> that kind of thing really bothers me in games lmao you see it in open world games a lot
2026-03-16T10:56:59  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> like the assassin's creed tower thing. or the BOTW tower thing.. or really any tower thing
2026-03-16T10:57:09  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah, I really didn't like that. But also characters thank you a lot and there's the whole "KEEP ON KEEPING ON" and everyone being so moved by your deliveries that they text you their whole life story.
2026-03-16T10:57:24  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah haha
2026-03-16T10:57:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> shut up and give me packages to deliver dammit!!!
2026-03-16T10:57:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Is this how Kojima wants to be constantly treated or something? What is this?
2026-03-16T10:58:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i wish he'd come around on that part of his recent games. it's been kind of an issue since mgsv
2026-03-16T10:58:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I think it might make more sense with the themes of the game if delivery was more of a thankless task.
2026-03-16T10:59:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> game is absolutely loaded with cutscenes, but you can only bother to make the samey thanks for the delivery schtick every time give me a break
2026-03-16T10:59:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> You know... like in real life.
2026-03-16T10:59:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> There shouldn't even really need to be cutscenes at the end of deliveries.
2026-03-16T11:00:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i mean it can be warranted i just don't want to see the same thing a million times because it breaks the illusion
2026-03-16T11:00:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't even know how 2 handles this. Hopefully better. But I think it honestly might be a dealbreaker for me if it's more of the same.
2026-03-16T11:00:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i think it's better, but just in the sense that they streamlined it, and not that they actually addressed it seriously
2026-03-16T11:01:01  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> just from what little i've seen
2026-03-16T11:01:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Hmmm
2026-03-16T11:01:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah I kinda stopped playing most open world games
2026-03-16T11:01:57  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's just the same thing over and over in slightly different contexts
2026-03-16T11:02:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Slightly different sets of mechanics
2026-03-16T11:03:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> warren spector i think during the deus ex GDC talk if i'm not mistaken talked a bit about how players will really quickly map out and find the boundaries of a game, not just physically, but also mechanically, and i think in open world games they can seem really incredible for the first X hours before you find those boundaries and then it's another 50 hours of the same boundaries
2026-03-16T11:04:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> something i've noticed in recent years that's attributed to my open world apathy
2026-03-16T11:05:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> i think it can be done well, but a lot of them are just really shallow in their mechanical boundaries as well as the physical ones
2026-03-16T11:06:39  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> and i'm not necessarily talking about invisible walls when i mean physical boundaries, although those apply, but also when a world isn't populated with enough unique things you can stumble on and find you're hitting a kind of physical boundary in a way
2026-03-16T11:07:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I am just hoping I'll have fun with Blood: Death Wish 2... because I did play some of the latest Quake brutalist mod and I was like "oh no, I'm bored, do I hate old school shooters now as well?"
2026-03-16T11:07:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Because you're also just kind of doing the same thing over and over.
2026-03-16T11:08:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> yeah boomer shooters need a wide variety of weapons to play with and good level design to carry it imo
2026-03-16T11:08:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> painkiller and serious sam know what's up
2026-03-16T11:08:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Well one reason Death Wish is so good is because it's actually pretty cinematic and there's lots of interesting events and twists throughout the levels. Every new level has new surprises.
2026-03-16T11:09:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> blood was pretty good iirc
2026-03-16T11:09:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> lots of spooky monsters to blast
2026-03-16T11:09:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Death Wish is Blood on steroids
2026-03-16T11:10:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> watching the civvie vid
2026-03-16T11:10:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah it's a good one. But the guy has been working on a 2.0 which is a new episode and a lot of the existing levels reworked.
2026-03-16T11:11:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> cool
2026-03-16T11:12:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Apparently it comes out in a couple of days????
2026-03-16T11:12:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> steam library runneth over
2026-03-16T11:13:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Just skip Death Stranding 2 and play this instead
2026-03-16T11:13:24  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> it does look good as hell
2026-03-16T11:16:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> The only complaint I really had was there were some really stupid jumpscares. I think they're all gone now.
2026-03-16T11:19:08  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> damn if this is getting reworked this is gonna be incredible
2026-03-16T11:19:24  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Yeah that was quite surprising, cos these levels are already great
2026-03-16T11:20:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> I don't know what to expect
2026-03-16T11:21:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/1851957304226398526
2026-03-16T11:22:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> These new levels also look great.
2026-03-16T11:26:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> It's just insane what he's able to do with this old, crappy game.
2026-03-16T11:33:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <testman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM
2026-03-16T12:08:25  <OpenMW-bridge> <susan00002> I'm on signal
2026-03-16T12:40:04  <OpenMW-bridge> <abdu7944> I really really like what Hogwarts Legacy is doing, they're providing lots of good options.
2026-03-16T12:40:20  <OpenMW-bridge> <abdu7944> And especially lots of upscaling tech.
2026-03-16T12:40:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <abdu7944> Every game should do that if they're going to still suck at optimization, might as well.
2026-03-16T12:40:59  <OpenMW-bridge> <abdu7944> FSR 1 to 3 are available even.
2026-03-16T13:46:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Oh yeah, I remember those. Which is honestly why my first reaction to that weird skyrim NPC was "kettle, pot, black"
2026-03-16T14:11:57  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> lol i didnt know fivem literally was owned by rockstar since last year
2026-03-16T18:34:43  <OpenMW-bridge> <savlecz> Is there a command to make myself invisible? Without giving myself an invisibility spell and casting it periodically
2026-03-16T19:53:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> Try "SetInvisible 1" ?
2026-03-16T19:56:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> There's SetChameleon as well
2026-03-16T19:56:05  <OpenMW-bridge> <mistersmellies> https://en.uesp.net/morrow/editor/mw_cscommands.shtml#setinvisible
2026-03-16T20:34:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJACkKbN-Eo they finally did the like weird live AI photorealism style transfer this looks so funny
2026-03-16T20:34:51  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> they've achieved full circle to the aesthetic of just uv unwrapping an hd face photo on a simple mesh
2026-03-16T20:34:51  <OpenMW-bridge> <.gonzo.> https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2033632544470786068/
2026-03-16T20:35:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> So uncanny with starfield because the face anims are already so bad
2026-03-16T20:36:45  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> I think if they didn't fuck up the tuning so bad with clearly insane HDR images it could be cool, it's been like a decade since the idea first got floated
2026-03-16T20:38:32  <OpenMW-bridge> <liammellofarley> zero camera movement in the shots so I imagine the temporal consistency is absurdly bad.
2026-03-16T20:45:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <sophie42069101> The starfield stare
2026-03-16T20:58:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Cant wait how Andreja looks with this. 😱
2026-03-16T21:04:51  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> wow wtgf
2026-03-16T21:05:10  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Are they insane?
2026-03-16T21:05:53  <OpenMW-bridge> <ms.arch> Nvidia, delete this immediately.
2026-03-16T21:17:38  <OpenMW-bridge> <akirazxe> The Starfield faces would be an improvement...if they didn't move, yes. But also there just seems to be something not quite right about the eyes either way, which sounds cliche but it's true.
2026-03-16T21:17:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Will be nice for those who play graphics.
2026-03-16T21:29:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <mr.blowtatoes> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483215646534795326/AQMi_l4-uVrJ90dq7MmyoBqrmp6stfsP5ES_BSaTZ-VtG52bxb5m-zoHo05u-J5ILIf42IiJllhN7If-U1fGHB3w.mp4?ex=69b9c7b6&is=69b87636&hm=6f4cd5e3e4fab8211b6218760c954b7f39e701be94d29ca1b4620b21c3fb424d&
2026-03-16T21:33:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> WAIT I saw a stream talking about this and tho it was just a meme about ai generated images
2026-03-16T21:33:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> :doitswit:
2026-03-16T21:36:13  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Fuck that's deep into uncanny valley. Especiialy starfiel
2026-03-16T21:37:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483217597955837992/a3h8dllqvgpg1.png?ex=69b9c988&is=69b87808&hm=1005df411110fbe480d00d9d56a859ac0da5832db13dcf31fff1823292f06a82&
2026-03-16T21:37:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> it looks like thos 2-3 year ago singing face vids
2026-03-16T21:37:57  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> you know the ones
2026-03-16T21:38:14  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> like the ai vids of statues and shit singing with moving mouths
2026-03-16T21:38:40  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> The ones that fill 80% of yt now? Yeah.
2026-03-16T21:39:50  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Yt recommends like 10 different talking AI head videos daily.
2026-03-16T21:41:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> glad i turned off my watch history forever ago, now instead of recommendations youtube just pesters me to turn it back on
2026-03-16T21:48:35  <OpenMW-bridge> <hyamentar_09664> so its a yassify filter
2026-03-16T21:49:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <hyamentar_09664> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483220616269271061/1638131820_yass.png?ex=69b9cc57&is=69b87ad7&hm=b62d443f4538601967a18eb0944160a817d950f5fe12647d5874fe5fdd60d743&
2026-03-16T22:11:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483226255628435696/Screenshot_20260316_231105_X.jpg?ex=69b9d198&is=69b88018&hm=5e04ee8d2be42d1e2ac99dd8b51c2116f3ae50a5fefba77577e705be19252956&
2026-03-16T22:16:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> you will pay $80 for video games that all look the same and you will be happy
2026-03-16T22:16:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <rrrrrrrrr> 🫵
2026-03-16T22:18:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <akirazxe> Frankly if you can afford a brand new video card in 2026, you could pay twice as much for games and probably be fine.
2026-03-16T22:24:21  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Good that we have Morrowind :todd:
2026-03-16T22:26:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483230060390645811/9zodli8sfhpg1.png?ex=69b9d523&is=69b883a3&hm=e7727fd2730b0fdcb92d23fc9bc390209f4613d96e36dd345f54db504d47f27f&
2026-03-16T22:41:25  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> This is this exciting thing?
2026-03-16T22:44:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> It's a thing, don't know how exited I'm before seeing it in game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMVlfxUDe4
2026-03-16T22:45:22  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> This mostly look worse. The faces, I mean.
2026-03-16T22:45:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> honestly starfield is one of the games where it doesn't look all that bad
2026-03-16T22:45:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> It's the opposite of #nofilter photo, lol. It's like max filter.
2026-03-16T22:46:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> but thats mainly because the graphical offering is garbage to begin with
2026-03-16T22:46:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Yeah, I think it's to do how everything is kind of sterile anyway.
2026-03-16T22:47:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> it also says something that the aesthetic with dlss turned on somehow still fits :todd:
2026-03-16T22:48:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2033634414270587143
2026-03-16T22:48:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Are you excited?
2026-03-16T22:48:46  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Todd sure is
2026-03-16T22:48:48  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> :todd:
2026-03-16T22:49:19  <OpenMW-bridge> <priestofilunibi> Very excited for tes6
2026-03-16T22:49:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> :2090:
2026-03-16T22:57:14  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> +10 years of mods making it good.
2026-03-16T22:58:16  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Do you think starfield will be good in 7 years?
2026-03-16T22:58:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <xomniverse> Starfield has fundamental design problems a traditional, even if weak, ES game won't
2026-03-16T22:59:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> You're one optimistic fella
2026-03-16T22:59:11  <OpenMW-bridge> <xomniverse> I think I'm just being realistic
2026-03-16T22:59:17  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> I mean, maybe
2026-03-16T22:59:18  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Which is?
2026-03-16T22:59:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <xomniverse> heavy procedural generation, dumb fast travel system, mostly empty planets instead of a single highly curated and created landmass to explore
2026-03-16T23:01:44  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> You could, theoretically, not do that But it would also require remaking the game So probably not
2026-03-16T23:02:13  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Procedual generated, like DF, with proper story, and FO4 building mechanics. Fast Travel has been fixed with many mods already, BGS just need to implement it to main game. I would say only real problem in SF are the lack of different POIs. And that definitely isn't something that isn't fixable.
2026-03-16T23:02:28  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> They clearly tried to fix it with Shattered Space, but it didn't fix the rest of the game already being terrible
2026-03-16T23:02:42  <OpenMW-bridge> <xomniverse> thats my point. Modders didn't have to remake Skyrim from scratch to add value to it. You basically would for Starfield. I expect ES6 to be more like Skyrim
2026-03-16T23:03:52  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> > Procedual generated, like DF,  Brother, that's a take. there's procgen and there's procgen.   Starfield doesn't hold a candle in that comparison
2026-03-16T23:04:15  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> What
2026-03-16T23:04:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> oh
2026-03-16T23:04:34  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> you meant Daggerfall
2026-03-16T23:04:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> I thought Dwarf Fortress
2026-03-16T23:04:54  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> dagerfall proc gen also sucks ass, let's be fair
2026-03-16T23:04:56  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> Even DF doesn't really count, because you're expected to build the gamespace yourself.  The procgen still acts more like the randomized Borderlands guns in actual effect
2026-03-16T23:05:27  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> and which DF do you mean? :D
2026-03-16T23:05:33  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> Dorf
2026-03-16T23:05:37  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Naaah
2026-03-16T23:05:41  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Adventure mode is a thing
2026-03-16T23:05:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> underlying interactions in fort mode are a thing
2026-03-16T23:05:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> you're not expected to build the space yourself
2026-03-16T23:06:06  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> space is given and you build inside it
2026-03-16T23:07:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> But if DF only had adventure mode, it really wouldn't  be that great
2026-03-16T23:07:31  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Yeah, won't be that great game. But still will be an excellent fantasy world generator
2026-03-16T23:07:47  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> Starfield is an excellent fantasy planet generator (it's not)
2026-03-16T23:08:00  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> :P
2026-03-16T23:08:23  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Well it's not "fantasy".
2026-03-16T23:08:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> science fantasy
2026-03-16T23:08:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <.arrean> Ehhhh, semantics. Is Star Wars fantasy?   That's secondary
2026-03-16T23:09:12  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Nasapunk is the term
2026-03-16T23:10:09  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> The planet generation is awesome if you think that way.
2026-03-16T23:10:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> Ehhhh
2026-03-16T23:11:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> The terrain shader is nice
2026-03-16T23:19:02  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> Definitely. And also the planet system real time interaction visually. That's one thing they got so right.
2026-03-16T23:19:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483243224230400133/20241015143520_1.jpg?ex=69b9e165&is=69b88fe5&hm=3da616426bd37ceb69c47136c12e641a8a121616b3e67f968b4463597e656406&
2026-03-16T23:19:03  <OpenMW-bridge> <jiopsi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260450471448281088/1483243224708677723/two-worlds-one-view-v0-2o45oswmgs5g1.webp?ex=69b9e166&is=69b88fe6&hm=73fa041aee4fda3d1836af67b4ab6fa6136980a846fe125bd46cf8aea4a23a80&
2026-03-16T23:21:49  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> It is btw.
2026-03-16T23:21:58  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Space fantasy.
2026-03-16T23:23:07  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> WH40k is also a case like this. There are damn daemons there and Chaos Gods and magic :36vehks:
2026-03-16T23:26:36  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> I don't think demons discounts it from being scifi, but it isn't speculative fiction, which is a hard requirement
2026-03-16T23:32:55  <OpenMW-bridge> <cybvep> Let's just say that when daemons attack ships during warp-travel and literal knights start fighting these daemons with chainswords while getting buffs from some battle prayers and trying to prevent even greater Balrog-looking daemons from appearing, it's best to treat that as fantasy :36vehks:
2026-03-16T23:33:51  <OpenMW-bridge> <notfuji_> But have you thought about the socio-political implications of chainsword technology?